Monday, January 03, 2005

SERGE TRIFKOVIC SENDS A NAIVE MESSAGE

Доле се налази моја преписка са Алексом Стојшићем, вођена у октобру 2004. поводом кампање за америчке председничке изборе.

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From:
Dusan Vukotic [mailto:suriorao@sezampro.yu]
October 16, 2004 4:12 AM

Zar je moguce da smo mi Srbi toliko naivni? Ako "vrhunski" srpski intelektualci i "vodje" srpskih organizacija u SAD zapocinju nesto sto se nikako ne moze ubrojati u aktivnost zasnovanu na zdravom razumu, sta onda da ocekujemo od obicnog sveta?

Molio bih tu gospodu, koja cak sabira novac za podrsku aktuelnom predsedniku Busu, da odgovori na sledeca pitanja:

1. Da li je postojala ikakva razika u ranijoj politici republikanaca i demokrata prema Srbiji, Republici Srpskoj i Srbima uopste?

YES, The Republicans never bombed any Serb.

2. Da li je Srdjin (Serge!) Srpsko-americki savez biraca dobro razlucio, sta Srbi dobijaju (gube), stajuci na jednu ili drugu stranu? Sta ce se desiti, na primer, ako pobedu na sledecim americkim izborima odnese Keri?

If Kerry wins, the Serbs are screwed. If Bush wins, at the very least the status quo will remain.

3. Da li je danasnja Amerika uopste visepartijska drzava? Ili u njoj odluke ne donose ni Dzordz Bus ni Dzon Keri, pa time ni demekrate ni republikanci, vec neko sasvim treci?

Yes, the USA has multiple political parties.

The Tripartite Commission rules everything, Elvis is in charge.

4. Zasto se Srdja Trifkovic konsultuje sa Jasminom Vujic (lutkom Majkla Djordjevica), iz KSU (sa kojima danas u istu tikvu duva i nekada slavna SNO, izneverivsi tako svoje osnivace, velike srpske umove, Pupina i Ducica), to jeste, Kongresom Srpskog Ujedanja, cija je uloga u propasti Srbije sasvim evidentna (pomenimo samo Sent Andreju)?

The Serbian Unity Congress has nothing to do with the current Serbian situation. Communism and Socialism is at the very root of what has happened to the Serbs.

5. Da li mi biramo izmedju dva nacina naseg propadanja: laganog (Bus) ili brzog (Keri)?

Bush has done apsolutely nothing against the Serbs.

6. Da li su to Srdja i slicni "veliki umovi" savetovali nesrecnog predsednika Srbije, da napise ono "srceparajuce", krajnje jadno i ponizavajuce pismo Dzordzu Busu?

Regarding your personal attacks against Mr. Trifkovic, what have you ever achieved Mr. Vukotic? Mr. Trifkovic has made a name for himself internationally and has patriotically defended the Serbian cause while you smoke, drink coffee, and complain.

7. Da li je ovo samo prilika da Srdja i njegova Bajronova "braca" dodju do koje parice?

This is the common story of someone who has no morals and never gives to any cause. If you dont want to give, than you dont have to. But I think that anyone that thinks like would be the first to pocket the money.

8. Zar nije sramota da se takvoj, po svemu, nepromisljenoj akciji, daje toliki publicitet?

No its a shame that someone like you would even have access to a computer. It a shame that Serbs in Serbia and the government are not pressing Serbian issues. Why isnt there a campaign to push the implementation of the Dayton Agreements and the Kosovo Agreements? Why dont people like you, whom I cant call an intellectual even in quotations, complain about what is not being done and stop wasting your time attacking Serbs who are trying to accomplish something. Try waking up early and getting a job.

To: Dusan Vukotic; stojsic@cox.net; 'ANTIC.org-SNN'
Cc: Ujedinjeno Srpstvo;
Subject: Re: SERGE TRIFKOVIC SENDS A NAIVE MESSAGE – dodatak

Well, well... Mr. Alex! (srpski: Walja, walja... Aleksa)

I wrote this letter in Serbian and don't understand why am I

getting back your answer in English? I might suppose that you don't know Serbian and have hired someone to do translation. I hope, translator was sober (Serb. sabran)...

You say:

If Kerry wins, the Serbs are screwed.

I don't think that anything will be changed in American policy towards Serbs, no matter who wins presidential election. I'm living in Serbia, but, as I know, electorate in USA is strictly divided 50 : 50. Irrespective to my above opinion, think, what's going to happened (according to your logic - not mine) in case if Serbs declared themselves openly as Bush supporters and "your" candidate fail to win? Are you doped gamblers? I don't believe your are making a wise decision in the name of Serbs!

But why even take the risk. Bush is a known commodity, he doesn't care about the Balkans, NO OIL. Where Kerry might personally not care, the people that he is bringing along have all been greased by Albanian, Muslim, Croatian, and other anti-Serb forces. So it is better through our support for Bush. Do you not agree. Are you really for Kerry? or playing the devil's advocate?

YES, The Republicans never bombed any Serb.

Reason: They were not in power!

And at the start of the disintegration, Bush Sr. was against intervention. He did not interfere. Bush Sr. was actually against the dismemberment of Yugoslavia, remember. He was afraid of German domination of South East Europe.

If Bush wins, at the very least the status quo will remain.

Do you know what the "status quo" looks like. Kosovo is progressing towards its independence (langsam aber sicher); Hague tribunal stands as the Damocles' sword above Serbia and Serbian people; monetary system of Serbia will be completely destroyed very soon; privatization is just euphemism for the pure robbery.

What is the reason that Serge and his Byron brothers never tried to unite Serbian intellectual powers and prevent such destructive processes in Serbia. No, it is fine to you, to live quiet, undisturbed and secured life and, by the way, to preach (pricam ti pricu) in Serbian "favor". I am fed up of listening (reading) your "sagacious" stories, arid intellectual comments and sterile pamphlets.

Kosovo is progressing to independence, but it will be accelerated with Kerry. But if Serbs use Kosovo as a bargaining chip, we can at least get Republika Srpska independence if not outright annexation. If we just give everything away without playing smart politics, we will loose Sandzak, Vojvodina, and R.S. Regarding your being fed up, what are you doing against it. You are just negative and focusing your energies against those who are trying to help the Serbian cause. But people like you are eroding the moral of all Serbs. Why don't the politicians in Serbia come up with an united plan of action? They just idly sit by why things happen. Those politicians are looking out for themselves and nobody else.

Bush has done apsolutely nothing against the Serbs.

I see, you are irreparable naive. In the future don't even mention the word "politics" - no body will see your ignorance!

What is your political affiliation? Communist? Socialist? Why am I naive? It is just very simple. Bush doesn't care about the Balkans and Kerry's administration has been paid by anti-Serb lobbyists. Am I not right?

Regarding your personal attacks against Mr. Trifkovic, what have you ever achieved Mr. Vukotic?

I agree. Although I achieved nothing, I've also got nothing personal against Mr. Trifkovic. I just want him to stop playing and advocating in my name and in the name of citizens of Serbia. I will stay in my country under any circumstances, equally: good or evil; would you or Mr. Trifkovic ever come to visit this country if your "political" gamble failed? I know the answer: absolutely not! You will go on with your puppet lives without the tiny remembrance of your erstwhile "serious concern" for the future of your compatriot's "aborigines"!

Why is it a political gamble? The anti-Serbs have chosen Kerry and he is fighting for their ideas. With your logic, Bush, when he wins, should send the marines to help the Serbian Army. After all, the Albanians were against him. That is absurd. You gain absolutely nothing if you don't take a side. If you don't take a side you will never have anyone with you.

But I think that anyone that thinks like would be the first to pocket the money.

He, he... Very interesting (prodigious!) idea to stop people asking unpleasant questions? Am I right?

Look, the newspaper ads cost money. If a group collects money and pays for it, what is wrong with that?

No its a shame that someone like you would even have access to a computer.

I know the great number of very talented men in Serbia who are much better than I am (maybe even better than Your Excellency) and far more intelligent, but unfortunately, thanks to the "high-potent intellectuals" of your and Trifkovic's kind, they have no money to buy one single book and can't think about computer at all.

When you refer to Your Excellency, do you mean the other Aleksandar, Karadjordjevic? All I know is that lots of people in Serbia are rather lazy. They sit around and talk and talk without any actions. They criticize others while having no plan of their own. They are all philosophers. The reason we own anything is because we work. We get up everyday and work. What about your friends, how do they start their day. Do they wake up and go to work? Chances are they don't. The wake up and have coffee and cigarettes and spend the day socializing and philosophizing.

----- Original Message -----

From: Dusan Vukotic

Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2004 02:32 PM

Subject: Re: SERGE TRIFKOVIC SENDS A NAIVE MESSAGE - dodatak

Are you really for Kerry? or playing the devil's advocate?

I prefer no one of the two candidates. I don't care for American presidential election at all. Our bleak prospects (in the mind of those people who run the imperial politics), were sealed a long time ago. You must understand it at least as much as I do. We've got to believe in our own capacity and we urgently need to establish Serbian Trust of Brains. It is the only way we can go ahead if we even want to save our fatherland and Serbian nation.

Where Kerry might personally not care, the people that he is bringing along have all been greased by Albanian, Muslim, Croatian, and other anti-Serb forces.

Do you really believe that Bush and Kerry could be controlled by anyone else who is not well incorporated in the domain of the American "national interests"? As you see, it got nothing to do with the Republicans and Democrats. Bombing of Serbia would have happened, no matter who was on power at that time in America (Bush Sr.,Jr, Clinton, Kerry).

Bush Sr. was actually against the dismemberment of Yugoslavia, remember.

He "supported" once Yugoslavia the same way as his Jr. successor "sustains" survival of the Union of Serbia and Montenegro nowadays! Don't be silly!

Kosovo is progressing to independence, but it will be accelerated with Kerry. But if Serbs use Kosovo as a bargaining chip, we can at least get Republika Srpska independence if not outright annexation. If we just give everything away without playing smart politics, we will loose Sandzak, Vojvodina, and R.S. Regarding your being fed up, what are you doing against it. You are just negative and focusing your energies against those who are trying to help the Serbian cause. But people like you are eroding the moral of all Serbs. Why don't the politicians in Serbia come up with an united plan of action? They just idly sit by why things happen. Those politicians are looking out for themselves and nobody else.

It seems you are fond of "slow-motion" dying. I must say once again: extermination of Serbia has been planned for decades. American election have nothing to do with that sinister item, neither Bush nor Kerry. We can't do nothing except to wait the chance to sparkle in the field of the global political changes. When it happened we must grab it immediately. Every second of hesitation may be ended with pernicious result. The similar occasion appeared in the course of Shqiptar's violence in March this year. Unfortunately, our omnipotent intellectuals (Trifkovic and others) missed then a blissful opportunity to provide a substantial advise to the Serbian authorities. Afterwards, Mr. Tadic was praised by the Congress for the "brave decision", concerning his abstention from deployment of Serbian Army.

When you refer to Your Excellency, do you mean the other Aleksandar, Karadjordjevic? All I know is that lots of people in Serbia are rather lazy. They sit around and talk and talk without any actions. They criticize others while having no plan of their own. They are all philosophers. The reason we own anything is because we work. We get up everyday and work. What about your friends, how do they start their day. Do they wake up and go to work? Chances are they don't. The wake up and have coffee and cigarettes and spend the day socializing and philosophizing.

People in Serbia are the same as anywhere in the world. This lines above demonstrate your total ignorance of the human nature and character. I suppose you are the Serb. How is it possible that Serbs in America are more diligent (better!) than their compatriots in Serbia? Some kind of "inter Serbian racism"? Or what?

Bush doesn't care about the Balkans and Kerry's administration has been paid by anti-Serb lobbyists. Am I not right?

We came to the pont! As far as I know: presidents change each other - administration stays. Am I right?

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